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May 09

Question: Why do Quranists have different views on Salat?

Question: I have been browsing the internet for Quranist websites and their views on salat (commonly understood to be the Muslim ritual prayer) is very worrying? Why do you modify the Salat which the Muslims agree on and why do some of you reject it totally?

The question of Salat is usually the first one asked by other Muslims to Quranists upon hearing that we reject Islamic Traditions. How else can we learn to pray, they ask?

Because Quranism is an association of individuals and groups, we do not have a single explanation for our views on salat. However, we are content to say that Salat as what the Traditional Muslims depict is not the ubiquitous institution they say it is.

For a start, the Quran doesn’t tell us:
1. How many times there are (as in with the phrase ‘X number of times’. See 24/58 for times of privacy which explicitly uses ‘three times’)
2. What to recite for any prayers.
3. What is the format of movement

If Salat was the institution that Traditional Muslims say it is, why is there so much variation?

Please note that this article isn’t saying ‘don’t perform any ritual’. If the ritual prayer works for you, by all means practise it. It is advisable to continue to increase your knowledge of The Quran, and apply as you learn.

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Further reading about Salat from various Quranists’ perspectives:

  1. Quranic Salat and its Role in Establishing Islam and Imaan
  2. The Purpose of Salat
  3. Defining Salat
  4. Disproved once and for all: salat = prayer
  5. Three or Five Prayers in the Quran?
  6. An understanding of salat from Al Quran (The Reading)
  7. Thoughts on Salat Timings
  8. Compilation of the Salat Discussions
  9. AStudyofQuran.org
  10. Quran on Salat

Watch videos from the Quranists Network Salat Discussion on Quranists Network TV Channel!

 

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  1. Luis

    I have been reading the Quran on and off for some time now years ago when I lived in NYC there was a very nice muslim who saw that I was interested in islam, he owned a deli and it had islamic appeal and it fascinated me, so I brought a small paperback quran and have been reading it since on and off, now an' days I have had a wake up call with christianity, it's legalism and honesty coruption, so I started websearching on islam and found quranism and your views have spark my interest in reading Quran again. I realized that I am a muslim , a Quranist at that. I notice that the opening in the quran must be what traditional muslims use to profess, in every sura there is the beginning verse/line of the opening, and the quran does provide a solid structure for coming to prayer ; dawn, evening and at night ; mainly about 8pm down. So I beleive that this conflict that quranist are having about the salat time is what is hindering it from being more widley excepted, but in the quran salat time and how to pray is there. I do believe that modern islam has made a legalism and coruption system as well. these verse which I provide from the quran reguarding salat should convince any muslim quranist how to perform salat , mainly alone, but in the quran we are provided how to perform salat while in groups, hope this is helpful

    2:43] You shall observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) and give the obligatory charity (Zakat), and bow down with those who bow down.

    the above verse says "Contact Prayers" more than one.

    [15:98-99] "You shall glorify and praise your Lord and be with the prostrators, and worship your Lord until you attain certainty."

    when you pray during prostration you should be "Praising" Allah.

    [5:6] "O you who believe, when you observe the Salat (Contact Prayers) you shall wash your faces, wash your arms to the elbows, wipe your heads and wash your feet to the ankles."

    A true Quranist must perform this before prayer.

    [2:238] "You shall consistently observe the Salat (Contact Prayers), especially the middle prayer, and stand before God in submission."

    the above verse indicates a "middle prayer" which indicates a schedule or set time.

    [3:113] "They are not all the same; among the followers of the scripture there are those who are righteous. They recite God's revelations through the night while prostrating."

    during your salat/prayer time you use reinforce a verse which YOU have learned this demonstrates to Allah your commitment.

    [17:110] Say, "Call Him GOD, or call Him the Most Gracious; whichever name you use, to Him belongs the best names." You shall not utter your Contact Prayers (Salat) too loudly, nor secretly; use a moderate tone.

    above we read how we are to pray.

    [18:27] "You shall recite what is revealed to you of your Lord's Scripture (the Quran). Nothing shall abrogate His words, and you shall not find any other source beside it."

    Finally the Quran itself is speaking to us that their is no other scripture to listen to.

    And this is why I am a Quranist-Muslim.

    hope these verses assist everyone sincerely looking to worship "Allah" and not men.

    1. Hunain

      how many rakats (meaning how many times you have to repeat the cycle of, "Qiyaam", which means standing, "Rukoo3", which means bowing, and "Sujood", which means prostrating)? Can you tell us this alone from the Quran? I am sorry you cannot. What about if you miss a prayer? Can you tell us about that from the Quran? Can you tell us how much Zakat we have to give, as Quran mentions about giving Zakat in 100s of places? Can you please explain what does Quran mean when it says "Follow Allah and follow the Messenger. Can you explain to us how we can follow the messenger? And there is a lot more that you have no answers about in the Quran. May Allah guide us all to the straight path, the path of Prophet Mohammad Peace be upon him.

      1. Mubarik

        why does the number of rakaat truly matter? if a bunch of people that follow the Quran alone gathered to do a prayer i'm sure they'd come to some sort of agreement as to how many they would do, and how they would do it. the only difference from that and the Sunni/Shia way of prayer is that they wouldn't be attributing it God (ie. saying its mandatory to do it that exact way when God hasn't prescribed it).

  2. Quranist Crusader

    1. There are 3 prayer times mentioned in the Qur'an. Look it up.

    2. "Neither speak thy Prayer aloud, nor speak it in a low tone, but seek a middle course between." (17:110)

    "And recite the QUR'AN in slow, measured rhythmic tones" (73:4)

    3. Start standing and prostrate yourself. "When thou art with them, and STANDEST to lead them in prayer, Let one party of them stand up with thee, Taking their arms with them: When they finish their PROSTRATIONS….." (4:102)

  3. abdennoor

    You must read the Holy Coran in arabic language; the translation in english is not perfect. For example the meaning of "zakat "is not : obligatory charity as the "ulema" say but purity (etymology meaning). And "Arjal" meaning is : legs not feet.
    Salam
    Abdennoor

  4. Derrick Reaves

    [003:096] Of course, the very first house (of worship) built for mankind is certainly the one in Makkah. (It is) full of blessings and guidance for the entire world.

    Mecca and what goes on in it is clearly a guide to mankind. How can Qur'anisttufting ignorance on how to make salaat? Also, knowing Allah would not command something of us without giving an example or teaching how to do it correctly?

  5. Aliyah

    I'm a quranist. the 5 times prayer is mentioned in quran. Surah 30: Al Rum 17 "SO (GIVE) GLORY TO ALLAH, WHEN YE REACH
    EVENTIDE AND WHEN YE RISE IN THE MORNING;" 18 "YEA,TO HIM BE PRAISE, IN THE
    HEAVENS AND ON EARTH; AND IN THE LATE AFTERNOON AND WHEN THE DAY BEGINS
    TO DECLINE." These verses only mention four prayers…

    ‘isha’ is
    not mentioned here, but it is mentioned in Soorat Hood, where Allaah says (interpretation
    of the meaning): “… and in some hours of the night…” [Hood 11:114]

    For more answers refer to this page http://facebook.com/QuranistMuslims

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